He emphasized that free will allows individuals to play out their desires without interference from a divine force, highlighting the idea that God does not direct every aspect of life and that people often create and live in illusions.

Then, interrupting Bartholomew, a second entity (or master) joined the discussion to further elaborate on this topic, offering a metaphor of a vast sphere from which separate protrusions (individual wills) emerge, only to eventually recognize there is but one true will aligning with the divine.

This master also stressed that true enlightenment involves recognizing earthly life and its many forms as illusions and emphasized the importance of doubt as a precursor to higher wisdom.

Both masters underscord the transformative power of sound and mantras in aligning with divine will and overcoming the illusion of separateness. Throughout, they repeated a call for individuals to recognize their oneness with the divine over the ego's illusion of separateness, advocating for personal inner work and faith in divine guidance.